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Post by MiraElizabeth on Sept 17, 2004 21:09:26 GMT -5
I have read your essay on Mira quite a while ago so I went back to take a look with the link you gave me to refresh my memory of what you said and all I have to say is: Wow! You're right, I did sound very much like that. I didn't mean to, if that's what you're implying. I agreed with you the first time I saw that. Whenever I brought up the subject with my other friends, they never cared so I kept it to myself until I saw your take on the way Mira was treated. I was quite happy that someone else felt the same way I did on the subject. I suppose great minds think alike, or we just agree because we both love Mira so much. Either way, I'm glad we agree. Okay, you know what...I don't think it was random. Your post was point for point, paragraph for paragraph almost in line with what I wrote. I will be happy to point out how similar they are. They are too similar for me to believe that it is something that you read a while ago and are just now remembering. Now, I do not know if it was intentional, but I am not happy and I am trying to be as diplomatic as I can about this.
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Post by SuperNova on Sept 17, 2004 21:34:41 GMT -5
I'm very sorry that you think that I stole from you. I wish I could assure you that I didn't, but I don't know you and you don't know me so I'll try my best to explain what had happend. I didn't copy what you said from your site. I felt exactly the same way you obviously did even before I saw your site. Of course I have no proof to back that up, just my honest word as a fellow Mira fan (even that sounds really corny). What would be the sense in copying what you said and posting it on a message boad that we both are members of? I'm not stupid. If I had done that, I obviously would have been caught because I'm sure that pretty much everyone on this board had been to your site one time or another. Anyway, this board is for everyone to share their own oppinions on BLoSc, which I did. When Ranger Wagner said:
"That poll was an unfortunate idea ^^;. I love BLoSC; I think is one of my favourites Disney series ever but There's no girls in the series, our poor Mira is alone in a men world, because, yes, there are more girl rangers but they are props, you know. They no talk, no have a relevant role in the serie... And that's not all, in "Shape Stealer" episode Mira saved the day and no one NO ONE gave her a medal, no one recognized her job!!! things like this makes me anger."
I just replied in sequence with hers. She talked about how she didn't like how Mira was treated in a whole, so I started out with what I think of that to get started on what I was going to say next, which was replying to her references of the episodes where Mira wasn't treated fairly, such as "Shapestealer". I just elaborated more on that with the episodes I could remember. I talked about why that made me angry (because no one gave her any reacognation) and then I started talking about the medals, because that came next in her message. That's it! Then I just said a little about how much more complex she is than the other characters on the show--because she is! It's obvious. I am a huge Mira fan, maybe more than you are, maybe not. I dunno, I don't care, but I'm still a big fan and I pay attention to every little detail of her (like how Joy and Ninde pay attention to Ty Parsec, how you pay attention to Mira, how Linn and Nick pays attention to Buzz) We all have our favorite characters on the show and we all know everthing about them. I ended my message by saying that I hated how Mira didn't even get her own action figure because that has been bothering me for a very long time!
I really didn't mean to sound like you. Yes, I did read your essay before and it is very possible that how you worded some of the things you said stuck in my mind. But It was NOT intentional and I don't appreciate being accused for being a liar and for something I didn't do. I personally am getting sick of arguing with you all of the time. All I wanted, Elizabeth, was to be your friend and if that didn't work out (which I can see that it didn't), I definately didn't want to be your enemy. I know that I am only 14, going on 15 in Dec, but I am very mature for my age, whether you believe me or not and I don't like being treated this way. I didn't plagiarize.
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Post by MiraElizabeth on Sept 17, 2004 22:08:04 GMT -5
First, when something is almost point for point and paragraph for paragraph in line with some thing someone else wrote, do not be surprised if you are questioned about it.
Second, do not paint me as the "bad guy" here. It isn't going to fly. I saw something that infringed on my original work and I pointed it out.
Third, you have not been "arguing" with me all the time so you have nothing to be sick of. I don't know where in the name of the goddess that you are getting that from. I have made nothing even remotely resembling a negative comment towards you until now and I did so only after I felt I had been infringed upon.
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Post by MiraElizabeth on Sept 18, 2004 10:48:37 GMT -5
Okay, since when was fandom some sort of competition? This is not an "I'm a bigger fan" contest. I enjoy Mira's character for reasons that you are too young to understand or appreciate. I like her because I like her. I draw her because I like to draw her. I write because I like to write. I don't do it for anyone but me. I don't participate in this fandom for recognition or anything else. I participate because I want to and because I enjoy the company of Joy and Linn and others who I have gotten to know over the years and who I respect.
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Post by Buzz Lightyear on Sept 19, 2004 21:21:03 GMT -5
Alright I feel I should say something here. Being the MOD I do have to lay down the law.
I have to say it does look TOO close to Miraelizabeth's work for comfort. I've read both the reply and the essay and have printed each out and compared them side by side. I highlighted lines, even paragraphs that are almost word for word (being in college English I do this often, even to my own works.) It is super close to Miraelizabeth's. Plagerizim is not to be tollerated of any kind. School will F drop you and so will it happen here. But, I will not ban you. However there are a few rules I have to lay down and stress to keep things like this from happening.
1. No copying of other people's works of ANY kind. This iscludes writeings, artwork, ideas, and identity.
2. No bothering of Miraelizabeth of ANY sort. There's a sort of restraining order. Stay 100 pixels from Miraelizabeth at all times. This includes e-mails, PMs, and so forth. Look but don't touch.
3. No mini-meing. There's only one Miraelizabeth.
4. Rabid fangilisim has to be kept to a minimum. We really really don't want to see post about "I love Mira everyone loves Mira ^________^ SQUEE SQUEE SQEE!"
The council has spoken.
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Post by Buzz Lightyear on Sept 20, 2004 21:31:58 GMT -5
SuperNova you are hear by banned from this forum for harrasment of a bored member. Directly or indirectly you broke the probation laws. Buh bye.
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