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Post by MiraElizabeth on Apr 30, 2004 1:38:01 GMT -5
I made some Mira wallpaper. Not like anyone'll use it though. Kind of like my dollz. Nobody used them either.  |
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Post by MiraElizabeth on Apr 30, 2004 2:58:57 GMT -5
And speaking of which (and bear with me, I've been briefing cases for the court of appeals and taking finals and participating in mock court for 8 days straight)...
How come Mira gets absolutely no froggin' respect?
I know she's not as important on this board or on FFN or anywhere else really as Buzz or Ty, but in the name of the Goddess, I wish people would remember that other people like her. It's is so froggin' annoying to constantly see your favorite character treated like crud. Some idiot writes some cruddy story about her on FFN. I seriously did not need to read that. Only the Goddess knows why I did. No one would ever dream of trashing Buzz or Ty or Warp or someone else. But Mira's fair game. She's been made into a joke by so many and it's almost made this fandom unbearable.
I apologize for my lack of devotion to Buzz or whoever and for my devotion to a character that most find annoying and repugnant.
Poor Mira.
Oh well. I'm going to crawl back into my hole and pray that the Goddess ends my finals soon so I can go to the Outer Banks, sit on the balcony of my vacation home, and stare at the water.
TY'S TINY EDIT: Sorry M.E. - not sure how bad that one word is or not, but just to be safe I figured I had to change just that one. Now it's "froggin". Heh. If Buzz thinks otherwise, though, you can change it back.
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Post by Ranger Parsec on Apr 30, 2004 15:14:27 GMT -5
How come Mira gets absolutely no froggin' respect? It's is so froggin' annoying to constantly see your favorite character treated like crud. Some idiot writes some cruddy story about her on FFN. I seriously did not need to read that. Only the Goddess knows why I did. I understand why you've been so upset by all the Mira-bashing. I don't read any stories on FFN by anyone I don't know anymore because it's just horrid how people treat some of the characters - Mira especially. If I could, I'd send them all to a deserted island somewhere. That's where they belong. X| But I suppose those people trashing her don't understand what a great character she really is. Actually, it's probably because they don't understand her at all - and I notice that misunderstood characters seem get bashed unless the people wiritng about them can see past all that. It's either that, or they just plain don't like her. Personally, I can't understand why she gets the brunt of the disrespect - I love Mira. But it's probably because they're a bunch of immature kids or perverts trying to twist a good, wholesome female character into something she's not. She deserves 150% more respect than what most people give her - which is why I try to portray her as accurately as I can in my own stories; she needs to be shown as something more worthy of respect than what most people think. I know she's not as important on this board or on FFN or anywhere else really as Buzz or Ty, but in the name of the Goddess, I wish people would remember that other people like her. Sure she's important here and on FFN. . .Speaking of such, I've been working on a lovely Mira wallpaper to go along with my Buzz and Ty ones, because I know it'll be used much more than my Ty WP. In fact, I'm sure other people, perhaps even you guys included, haven't hardly thought about Ty or doing anything with him before I came along. Besides, FFN had tons more fics including Mira than Ty; she was much more popular. And, though most of them were horribly OOC, at least she was depicted as important to the story. Ty's not important to almost anyone there, aside from you guys and those who actually read my fics (which appears to be very few). When I first checked out the BLoSC section, I looked over every single fan fic and couldn't find a single one that even vaguely referred to him. I mean, come on, Rocket Crockett's been more important on FFN than Ty, before I started writing my own fics. Even you used him. And I could not find traces of Ty anywhere else (besides three places that had screencaps - your site, a random site, and TL Archive) for that matter - so it was almost like he never existed. I only got the screengrabs for my site after asking people to get some for me. No one would ever dream of trashing Buzz or Ty or Warp or someone else. But Mira's fair game. She's been made into a joke by so many and it's almost made this fandom unbearable. Well, I wouldn't say that. I can't recall seeing much - if any - trash about Buzz or Warp yet, but I can't tell you how many people e-mail me about my site since it opened, asking me why I even like Ty and how mean he is to the other characters and everything they can think of to bash him about. It's like they've been trying to change my mind about him or something. (Maybe that's why every Ty fan I know personally has been so reclusive - or just disappeared completely. I can't get in touch with any of them anymore.) Of course, I've gotten some praise for my site too, but I definately wouldn't say that no one would dream of trashing him. Here's an example: I've only found one of three fics people have sent me (that include Ty) to be decent enough to show the public. The first guy sent me a fic where NOS-4-A2 brutally killed Ty, the second person gave me a short but half-decent fic (thank God), and in the third fic I got from someone, Ty's depicted as a gay pervert.  It made me sick and I'm just glad they still believe I'm going to post it on SCC (though, I'm not), because I'm hoping it will prevent them from posting it on FFN. So, I hate to start a rant of my own [oops too late >.<], but please don't try to tell me Mira's the only one being treated like trash in the fandom (though I'm definately not going to downplay her abuse by any measure - she has had more than her share). I'm telling you, these people have almost made me sorry I ever put my site up in the first place. I would have taken it down long ago if it hadn't been for the minority of people who still like it. I'm just glad people like you, EJ, Linn, Buzz, Ranger Firespear, and RedRage respect all of the BLoSC characters - whether they're your favorite or not. Personally, I have respect for every one of the characters. Buzz and Mira are, in fact, second in line on my list of favorite characters.  I apologize for my lack of devotion to Buzz or whoever and for my devotion to a character that most find annoying and repugnant. Aww. You don't need to apologize for that. *hugs* Somebody needs to take a stand for her and who better than you to do that? And it's actually really nice to know someone who understands Mira so well. I've actually been taking some tips from your fan fictions lately to help me improve with her personality in my own story. Thanks to you, in the next chapter of my story, she'll be improved more personality-wise. Lol. TY'S EDIT: Figured I should change the quotes on mine too. LOL. Didn't notice that word until now. |
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Post by Spaz Ranger on May 1, 2004 0:16:09 GMT -5
I made some Mira wallpaper. Not like anyone'll use it though. Kind of like my dollz. Nobody used them either. I'm sorry  . I didn't know they were able to be used by everyone. I didn't see it where you gave permission to use them and I didn't want to step on any toes and cause problems. But they were prettyful esspecially the one in the pink dress from the "Starcrossed" ep ^_^. I shall change my siggy tomorrow because right now I'm too tired to open up photoshop :S. |
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Post by Spaz Ranger on May 1, 2004 0:32:38 GMT -5
How come Mira gets absolutely no froggin' respect? I know she's not as important on this board or on FFN or anywhere else really as Buzz or Ty, but in the name of the Goddess, I wish people would remember that other people like her. It's is so froggin' annoying to constantly see your favorite character treated like crud. Some idiot writes some cruddy story about her on FFN. I seriously did not need to read that. Only the Goddess knows why I did. No one would ever dream of trashing Buzz or Ty or Warp or someone else. But Mira's fair game. She's been made into a joke by so many and it's almost made this fandom unbearable. . That's one of the reasons I don't read anything any more on ff.net. It's getting out of hand with all the retards thinking they're cute doing junk like that. They need a smack down, seriously. I swear I'm about ready to forget my good natured self (Heh! Yeah right!) and go on a flaming rampage against the twits. I personaly don't like to flame because I figure it's mean and blah blah blah, but it's looking like the only way to deal with the little punks, they want to be idiots, fine! They're dealing with the queen of idioticy. I'll drive them out with a barrage of flameing comments if I have to. I'll ruin the fandom for them before they ruin it for me. They want to start a war, well I'll finish it  . Doing stuff like that is uncalled for no matter to whom you are doing it to, or for what purpose and motivation. Like a character or not or whatever, you still have to respect them and treat them in the mannor of which it was intended. I apologize for my lack of devotion to Buzz or whoever and for my devotion to a character that most find annoying and repugnant. . You don't have to appologize. Not my buisness what character anyone likes. It's a fandom, not a cult. Personaly Buzz is my favorite but that doesn't mean everyone has to like him, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and likes and faves. But just because I like Buzz doesn't mean I dislike Mira. I thought she was a great character. One of the more interesting characters on that show. I just don't draw her as much or anything because I don't think my skills could ever do her justice, let's face it you got the market cornered on that one ^_^. Poor Mira. Oh well. I'm going to crawl back into my hole and pray that the Goddess ends my finals soon so I can go to the Outer Banks, sit on the balcony of my vacation home, and stare at the water. . :S Ughh my finals are coming up in too weeks. I am soooo not ready for this :S. *Hugz* But rest up, it won't be so bad forever. |
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Post by Spaz Ranger on May 1, 2004 2:10:38 GMT -5
Ohh hey I think I read what you were talking about, that supposed song fic one? Yeah I left them a nice review:
I don't even know where to being to tell you how much this sucked.
OK first things first. There are no feelings between Mira and Buzz. Haven't you ever watched the show? I doubt it because if you did you would have realized that there isn't any romatic chemistry between them. Why? One: Buzz is at least in his 40s and Mira is in her 20s, there's a huge age difference between them. Two: Buzz and Mira are partners on the same team, which if it is anything like the real police force and military even a regular job you are not allowed to be romantically involved with anyone on your squad and or in the store if we are going to broaden the topic here. Why? Because when you are going after bad guys you are supposed to be focused on the job, not weather or not your loved one will get hurt, it will cloud your judgement. Also you can't have loved ones on the same team because if one gets killed it's kinda traumatizing, I mean more so then usual death. And there's a good chance two could get killed at the same time. Also when you have arguements the rule against dateing team members prevents household squables from interfearing with your work. Three: Mira would never go for a man like Buzz. He would down grade her and try to control everything, Mira isn't the girl for that. Their relationship would be nothing but a big squabble. Not only that but King Nova would kill Buzz.
Second: Your characterization sucks!! Nobody was in character at ALL! Writing fan fiction means you try and keep the character's personalities as they were on the program, not takeing their bodies and making them do whatever the heck you feel like having them do. That's disrespectfull to the characters, and bad writing on your part.
You screwed Buzz up big time. You turned him into a womanizing sexist pig!! Did you watch any of the episodes or even the movie AT ALL?? Or have you still not gotten over the fact that Buzz is a boy and Mira is a girl? Is that all you can think of is gender differences?? Buzz is kinder and nieve. He would never exploit a woman. Don't make him something he's not. Also you turned him into a murderous freak! Buzz is not a gung-ho killer! Why the heck would he even consider such a thing!? He didn't want to kill him after the fact that he turned evil, and that is a bigger trechery against Buzz then stealing "his girl" ever would be.
And you screwed up Mira so much I don't even recognize her!! You turned her into some sort of chick out looking for trouble and "pleasure". Mira would never lower herself to a fluzy just out for a good time to tick someone off. Mira has standards, higher standards then you do I see. Also she wouldn't "Do it" before marriage, and neither would Buzz. Those two are respectable Rangers with strong morals and values. Don't bring them down to your sick and depraved level.She would never go for anyone like Warp. Why would she go out with a bad guy you idiot??
And Warp, HE'S A BAD GUY!!!! HE WORKS FOR ZURG!!!! He is NOT a captain of Star Command! Warp went bad before Mira joined Star Command, she never knew him before he was evil. You idiot!!! I suggest you actually watch the show, watch it until your eyes fall out of their socketts, maybe you'll learn something.
Also You need to separate your sentences when the speaker changes. No one can figure out who the heck is talking! Go back to English and learn how to write you reject!!
Also your time line is so out of wack, where the heck are you!!?? I mean if Warp is still a Space Ranger then he and Buzz would still be friends, and Mira wouldn't be around, and Buzz wouldn't want to kill him!! You freak!
And lastly this is hardly a G rated story. You talk about alcohol (by the way robots don't drink you retard!! He's a robot! XR doesn't need food or drink to live stupid!!) sex, and adult situations. Hardly suitable for small children.
In conclusion you need to get your mind out of the gutter and learn to treat these characters right. They aren't your proporty to play around with and bash around and mistreat like this. They belong to Pixar and Disney, and I don't think they would ever condone such a crime commited against their characters. Go back and actually sit down and watch the show. And think up a plot line that doesn't sound like it was written by a 13 year old slobbering fan girl with raging hormones in which she has no idea what to do with.
In the end THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!
After this I proceeded to report the fic to the mods for abuse on account of the missrating of the story and also because of the awful way sentences run into each other.
I said I was through being tolerente with them and I mean it.
But here I love you all ^_^!
Now of course that rewiew does sound childish in a way "youre stupid!" and so on, but hey you have to talk down to them, because they will never understand grown-up talk anyways. Plus I found it hyocritical of me to swear my rear off and then go and report them on that account of misrateing for the same offence.
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Post by RedRage on May 1, 2004 10:31:35 GMT -5
O.O! wow...those are long posts  |
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Post by Ranger J. Firespear on May 1, 2004 18:36:57 GMT -5
I made some Mira wallpaper. Not like anyone'll use it though. Kind of like my dollz. Nobody used them either. Actually, I am using it as the background on my phone now! Thanks! J. Firespear |
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Post by Ranger J. Firespear on May 1, 2004 19:15:38 GMT -5
Hey all... Well, I agree that Mira is often treated without much respect. And like you all said, it could very well be because many people don't understand the character. I actually find it kinda interesting how some people change the characters. (as long as it stays consistant throughout the fic) But yes, there are many that are totally wacked out. When I see those I usually just read them, laugh, and roll my eyes.  I am sure the person who wrote it liked writing it and some people out there were entertained by reading it. IMO if its a trashy fanfic and you don't like it, don't read it. Why work yourself up ranting to this guy or girl who probably doesn't care to hear why their story was bad or wrong in your eyes. They probably havn't seen or understood any of the show. Some of them are probably fans of the show but thought it would be fun to warp up the BLOSC universe a bit. Many of them are obviously just trash. The author probably knows this as well. Oh well... I still think some of the ones I have read where things are nothing like the series or movie were still kinda interesting. J. Firespear |
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Post by MiraElizabeth on May 1, 2004 20:59:08 GMT -5
1) My rant was not necessarily aimed at anyone. I was ranting because if I didn't I would have probably exploded and I needed to and I felt safe doing so on this board. I am starting to realize that this isn't the case.
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My use of Rockett for the one fic was because he incessently picked on Mira about her being a Princess and that scene fit well in that story. C'mon, Mira having dinner with Rockett. It's a strange thought and would have made for some interesting reactions from Buzz and the others. As for Ty screengrabs, I meant to do more from the two eps he was in. I actually had a ton (I let Quicktime record images frame by frame), but the comp crashed and I lost them and I haven't had time to update the BLoSC section of my website.
3. I am sorry to any one I offended, but quite frankly this post was for me to let out things and I seriously didn't even expect anyone to really respond to it. I figured most would read it and say: "Liz's is just stressed and having a moment." I do not know what people e-mail you Joy and I am sorry that they do it. It's not nice.
Eh, oh well. I think I might disappear for a while.
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Post by RedRage on May 1, 2004 21:24:00 GMT -5
i don't wanna make things worse, but i have to add something to this thread, there was once a guy asking for mira porn or something a while ago at a y group, thats kind of disrespectful
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Post by MiraElizabeth on May 1, 2004 21:34:13 GMT -5
I get porn requests about 2-3 times a month. I've also found my artwork altered. The pic that my icon was made out of was altered into something not so nice. A friend who is sort of my watchdog when I can't be saw it and reported it to me.
Privately, I've been through hell and back due to my website. Private attacks I can handle. I'm enough of a smart-patootie that I can shoot off a few remarks and 9 times out of 10 they don't have the intelligence to fire back.
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Post by RedRage on May 1, 2004 21:41:10 GMT -5
wow....thats kind of sick
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Post by Spaz Ranger on May 1, 2004 23:58:07 GMT -5
Hey all... IMO if its a trashy fanfic and you don't like it, don't read it. Why work yourself up ranting to this guy or girl who probably doesn't care to hear why their story was bad or wrong in your eyes. They probably havn't seen or understood any of the show. I have no problems with people changing things here and there or taking things OOC and doing something new and different.I agree sometimes that makes it more interesting. And you can always improve upon a character's personality with keeping it in respects of what they were disigned to be. But as long as it's not with the intent of being trashy and disrespectfull and just for the sake of ticking people off. I mean I hadn't flamed anyone like that ever. Usually just let it pass and ride it off to the fact that they are idiots, if no one pays attention to them or give them what they want they'll eventually move on. But after constantly hearing my friends keep saying about stalkers and people asking for nasty art and all that buisness it kinda works on the nerves. Sometimes you just gotta put a foot down somewhere and tell them no more. I just don't want to see a good thing go down the tubes because some kid thought being a moron was funny. I really enjoy this show and all of it's characters, it's one in a million, it's just the same ol bashing junk like that is getting old. And I had them on an abuse of the site clause because they rated it G with a whole bunch of swear words and adult situations. Might as well tell them what for on everything else while I was on a roll, it wasn't going to be around very long anyways. But that's my opinion lol, I have a short tempor anyways. |
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Post by Spaz Ranger on May 2, 2004 0:08:09 GMT -5
3. I am sorry to any one I offended, but quite frankly this post was for me to let out things and I seriously didn't even expect anyone to really respond to it. I figured most would read it and say: "Liz's is just stressed and having a moment." No need to aplogize ^_^. I didn't find it personal or offensive in any way shape or form. I mean everyone has to vent, no use keeping it all inside where it will do no good. |
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It made me sick and I'm just glad they still believe I'm going to post it on SCC (though, I'm not), because I'm hoping it will prevent them from posting it on FFN.
. I didn't know they were able to be used by everyone. I didn't see it where you gave permission to use them and I didn't want to step on any toes and cause problems. But they were prettyful esspecially the one in the pink dress from the "Starcrossed" ep ^_^. I shall change my siggy tomorrow because right now I'm too tired to open up photoshop :S.
. Doing stuff like that is uncalled for no matter to whom you are doing it to, or for what purpose and motivation. Like a character or not or whatever, you still have to respect them and treat them in the mannor of which it was intended.
I am sure the person who wrote it liked writing it and some people out there were entertained by reading it.