Ty and Buzz

[Ranger Parsec]

I just got an e-mail today from this gal and her friend who have said that I was totally wrong in my fic "Reunited Comerades" (posted on some fiction site other than ff.net). They objected to the fact that Ty would do anything really heroic (like I had him do in the fic), but also that Buzz would actually think of Ty in the same way as he would Warp (which I also included). They say that Buzz isn't really good friends with Ty or anything and they claim that the episode Wirewolf proves that Ty's just the kind of person who wants to 'outdo' Buzz and etc, since he's jealous of him.

And, to top it all off, these gals are Buzz fans. However, I love Buzz and his fans - in fact, some of my best friends are Buzz fans. So, I thought it would be an interesting topic to bring up.

Now, I wouldn't object with them on the fact that Ty was majorly jealous of Buzz - anyone can see that. But I wouldn't say that he wanted to be better than Buzz. Ty and Buzz obviously care about each other in the same way brothers would. I mean, Ty didn't warn Buzz and his team to leave him on the planet for nothing - once he figured out he was Wirewolf, he knew that it was best for their safety to leave ASAP. Obviously, the last thing Ty wanted was to suddenly change into Wirewolf and tear one of them apart. And Buzz seemed to be really worried about Ty when he saw him laying on the floor in that room. So, I come to the conclusion that they were just as close of friends as Buzz and Warp were. Heck, Ty probably even thought of Warp as a friend too when they were in the academy together.

Now, as for the claim that Ty is a chicken (heh) or rescuing people solely to boost his ego or reputation or something like that, I dunno about any of you, but I have to disagree. I mean, sure, NOS-4-A2 seemed to give him goosebumps on more than one occasion, but Ty ended up saving Buzz from him and slaying the villian once and for all in RotM. And it certainly didn't look like an ego trip for Ty to take control of Wirewolf again and stop himself from draining the power out of Buzz's suit in Wirewolf. And he's not selfish, either, the proof being in both the episodes that he was in. So, in my opinion, Ty is considerably heroic. In fact, I'm willing to bet that alot of the 50+ times that Ty needs to be rescued by Buzz is when he's trying to do something to rescue someone else - then Ty just ends up in the way of trouble. Heh. He's actually sort of an accident-magnet: trying to do the right thing, but at the wrong place and/or the wrong time. LOL.

Anyways, I'll leave it at that. Gotta go hunt down Zurg for creating advanced algebra (with lots and lots of Z's). lol. See ya!

[Spaz Ranger]

How dare they call themselves Buzz fans. I mean seriously, if they were fans they wouldn't be rejects and flame people. If they were fans of Buzz they should have learned from the man that you should be respectful and keep your mouth shut if you don't have anything nice to say.

I personally I agree with you. I mean Buzz and Ty were buddys back in the academy. That's why when Buzz walked in in "Wirewolf," he said "Ty! Buddy!" all happy to see him. Sure maybe Ty wasn't too thrilled as you said but Buzz seemed to like Ty enough as a friend. He even asked Ty to "Make the caller," when Wireworlf attatcked XR. If he didn't like Ty wouldn't have have asked Mira or someone else?
And Ty isn't a coward. If he was a coward why did Nebula send him on his own mission on Canus Lunus? If Commander thought he was a coward he would never send him off on his own. And he saved XR from Nos-4-A2 in the beginning of "Wirewolf," told them to leave because he didn't want anyone to get hurt. Deffended Nebula against XL in "Revenge of the Monsters" so on and so forth. If he was a coward he would have ran. Besides cowards don't make it in Star Command.
Also Ty and Buzz are friends because Buzz came to defend him at his trial on "Revenge of the Monsters," if they weren't firends why would Buzz defend him so much? Plus for Buzz to save Ty 50 times in the academy they had to be around each other a lot, and there is another clue that they were friends. Also at the end of "Wirewolf" Buzz apologized and so did Ty.

I mean the evidence is stacked against them, and we found all this in only two episodes. People really should watch the shows more often before going all retard on writers and artists. If people took time to actually sit and watch the cartoon we wouldn't have things like this or Buzz and Mira pairings or other junk.

Buzz would be very disapointed in them that's for sure.

[Buzz Lightyear]

Yeah I gotta agree with you two. Fans? Hardly! Fans dont rip into each other over piddly little stuff like that. That's one reason why one of my major rules is no flameing, keeps the true fans in and the poseres out.
I also can't stand people who gotta make a big deal out of something so small. First of all you two have proven enough evidence and it is all surface and visable if you pay attention. Scond, it's your story, you're writing it, you can do whatever you want in in basically. If you want pigs to fly out of peoples ears for no reason then hey, who cares.
As far as I'm concerned if they don't like it let's see them write their own story then.
Let me guess, they are 12 year old girls who like Buzz for the only fact that they think he is cute right? Typical, mindless. *Sigh*. And they wrote like this. "Thiz suxors cuz Buz and Ty r knot fi3nds! Ty iz a cowrd and Buz iz bet3r th3n hims. W3s lik3 buz cuz he iz coote!" I wouldn't take anything someone like that said to heart because obviously they don't have a brain between the two of them.

[Ranger Parsec]

SpazRanger said:

And Ty isn't a coward. If he was a coward why did Nebula send him on his own mission on Canus Lunus? If Commander thought he was a coward he would never send him off on his own. And he saved XR from Nos-4-A2 in the beginning of "Wirewolf," told them to leave because he didn't want anyone to get hurt. Deffended Nebula against XL in "Revenge of the Monsters" so on and so forth. If he was a coward he would have ran. Besides cowards don't make it in Star Command.

Also Ty and Buzz are friends because Buzz came to defend him at his trial on "Revenge of the Monsters," if they weren't firends why would Buzz defend him so much? Plus for Buzz to save Ty 50 times in the academy they had to be around each other a lot, and there is another clue that they were friends. Also at the end of "Wirewolf" Buzz apologized and so did Ty.

I'm glad to see some sensable people agree with me! Lol. And you're right on all accounts there.

SpazRanger said:

Buzz would be very disapointed in them that's for sure.

And I'm sure he would be too. It surprised me to hear that they were Buzz fans. In my opinion, they give Buzz followers a bad name - just some of the bad apples of the bunch, if y'know what I mean.

[Spaz Ranger]

Ranger said:

I'm glad to see some sensable people agree with me! Lol. And you're right on all accounts there.



And I'm sure he would be too. It surprised me to hear that they were Buzz fans. In my opinion, they give Buzz followers a bad name - just some of the bad apples of the bunch, if y'know what I mean.

Yeah there are bad apples in every bunch. Wherever there is a fandom, there will be idiots. But I try not let them bother me, I mean I figure what the heck does a 10 year old brat know? But I agree with Buzz, they are probably only fans because they think Buzz is the cute lead male or something. Which is true, but that's not the only reason why myself and most of the other fans like him. But little imature children have a hard time seeing past that. I give them a few weeks before they move on to whatever new show, toy, movie, or guy is hot in the spot light, they always do.

[ShadowWolf75]

*directs a Hornet squad in the general direction of those two fanpoodles* Meh, every fandom has to have some stupid people, I guess . . .

Anyway, I think Ty would do heroic things . . . I mean, heck, he's a Space Ranger! It's what they do, and not just the uber-heroic guys like Buzz, all of the Rangers are heroes.

The single act of overpowering Wirewolf again and then destroying NOS-4-A2 made Ty a hero, there's no real arguing with that. (Brings up something I hadn't thought of, though . . . in the fic I'm writing, NOS-4-A2 is back, and maybe becomes a bounty hunter later. I wonder how Ty would react on encountering the vampire again when he thought he'd killed him? I'm seeing lots of wrist laser usage, though . . .)

Ty was jealous of Buzz for a while during "Wirewolf", it's only natural that he would be at that point. But once he realized he was Wirewolf, he got over the jealousy and the only thing that mattered was the safety of Buzz and his team. And if he didn't like Buzz, I don't see Ty caring quite so much whether Buzz and company survived.

So yeah, Buzz and Ty probably were friends, they just got a little distanced from each other due to the whole 50 rescues thing. But they made up and after "Wirewolf" they were friends again.

So, ignore the two idiots who emailed you, they have no clue what they're talking about.

[Darksigma]

Hmph. I'm so sick of people attacking others' stories because of small things like that, especially if the writer is right and not scribbling any idle out-of-character junk. Ty is neither an incompetent sloth, nor hates Buzz. Maybe jealous, but not the one to leave him in danger when a tight spot is in question ( *points at the others' comments above* ).
I'm just so darn tired of this pointless flaming. During the time I've been writing BLoSC fics, every once in a while some kid spams me with mails like "Warp would never become good! Ur so stupid cuz u put him good! Hes evil not good!", "Zerg is not buzz's father! U SUX!", "Ur OC's are stupid!!!111oneone111", "UR GRAMMER SUX!!!!" et cetera.
...the heck... What's wrong with these kids? I can see that my grammar isn't the best due to English being my 3rd language, but still. I'd like to see these wiseguys trying to write something in Finnish. ;D

Getting off topic. Anyhoo, don't pay attention to those berks, but keep writing. Maybe they'll grow up someday.

[Ranger Parsec]

Shadow said:

The single act of overpowering Wirewolf again and then destroying NOS-4-A2 made Ty a hero, there's no real arguing with that. (Brings up something I hadn't thought of, though . . . in the fic I'm writing, NOS-4-A2 is back, and maybe becomes a bounty hunter later. I wonder how Ty would react on encountering the vampire again when he thought he'd killed him? I'm seeing lots of wrist laser usage, though . . .)

So true. ^_^ Also, about that idea in your fic, that would be interesting to see how Ty would react to seeing NOS-4-A2's return. In fact, I was actually pondering the idea of bringing NOS-4-A2 back for revenge in a fan fic, myself. But kinda ditched it for another fic later on. Heh heh. But I'm sure Ty would be shocked to see him come back and I'd agree that there would probably be alot of wrist laser usage too. Lol.

By the way, welcome to the board Shadow Wolf (love the name)! Glad to see a new member around. ^_^

Darksigma said:

Hmph. I'm so sick of people attacking others' stories because of small things like that, especially if the writer is right and not scribbling any idle out-of-character junk. Ty is neither an incompetent sloth, nor hates Buzz. Maybe jealous, but not the one to leave him in danger when a tight spot is in question ( *points at the others' comments above* ).
I'm just so darn tired of this pointless flaming. During the time I've been writing BLoSC fics, every once in a while some kid spams me with mails like "Warp would never become good! Ur so stupid cuz u put him good! Hes evil not good!", "Zerg is not buzz's father! U SUX!", "Ur OC's are stupid!!!111oneone111", "UR GRAMMER SUX!!!!" et cetera.
...the heck... What's wrong with these kids? I can see that my grammar isn't the best due to English being my 3rd language, but still. I'd like to see these wiseguys trying to write something in Finnish. ;D

Getting off topic. Anyhoo, don't pay attention to those berks, but keep writing. Maybe they'll grow up someday.

Yes, I agree with you. That's why I ask that people don't flame my stories - it's pointless and a literal waste of internet space in my opinion. But I've never been deterred by kids like that, nor do I ever intend to. Which is why I'm gonna utterly annoy them by continuing to write my fan fics. Lol.

[Buzz Lightyear]

Darksigma said:

Hmph. I'm so sick of people attacking others' stories because of small things like that, especially if the writer is right and not scribbling any idle out-of-character junk. Ty is neither an incompetent sloth, nor hates Buzz. Maybe jealous, but not the one to leave him in danger when a tight spot is in question ( *points at the others' comments above* ).
I'm just so darn tired of this pointless flaming. During the time I've been writing BLoSC fics, every once in a while some kid spams me with mails like "Warp would never become good! Ur so stupid cuz u put him good! Hes evil not good!", "Zerg is not buzz's father! U SUX!", "Ur OC's are stupid!!!111oneone111", "UR GRAMMER SUX!!!!" et cetera.
...the heck... What's wrong with these kids? I can see that my grammar isn't the best due to English being my 3rd language, but still. I'd like to see these wiseguys trying to write something in Finnish. ;D

Getting off topic. Anyhoo, don't pay attention to those berks, but keep writing. Maybe they'll grow up someday.

That annoys the heck out of me. People who spell Zurg Zerg. It makes me wonder how their opinion of a story is valid when they can't even spell a main character's name. I mean you should know how to spell a characters name right before you ever know anything else.

[RangerWagner]

I think that Ty never be jealous about Buzz. I think that Buzz and Ty really are good friend but Buzz always have problems with his own feelings and specially the others feelings. The proof of that is in a lot of episodes, as by example, in "Gravitina" episode, when he met Gravitina first time he didn't notice that she liked him, was XR who had to said it to him and when he met again Bonnie Lepton in "Eye of the Tempest" episode happened the same.
He's a great space ranger and a very good and loyal friend, but he's very shy and feelings are a huge problem for poor Buzz.
As you can see thousand times in "Wirewolf" episode Ty tried to express his feelings being sarcastic and Buzz didn't understand him, not even when Mira said to him that was happening something with Ty feelings he didn't understand what she was saying!.
I think that communication problem was the main reason why Ty was angry with Buzz. In fact, I remember a phrase in "Good Ol' Buzz" episode Mira said to him that talking to him is like talking to a wall.

Only at the end of "Wirewolf" episode Buzz understand that Ty felt wounded and that's the reason why at the end of this episode and in "Revenge of the Monsters" they are good friend again.

Anyway Buzz need practice in "How to understand the others feelings and how to show your own without feeling strange or uncomfortable".

Poor Buzz *huggles to him*